tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post1898979580216493412..comments2023-10-31T13:47:11.422+02:00Comments on BellyLorna: It’s not fair....Lorna (aka BellyLorna!)http://www.blogger.com/profile/08084848477083529818noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-89830114190561821112012-09-06T13:33:00.052+02:002012-09-06T13:33:00.052+02:00I have been told this my whole life "Whatever...I have been told this my whole life "Whatever happens, always happens for the best".<br />It was a lovely flat when I stayed at your place- but now it's time for you to find a better flat that your going to love even more!<br /><br />Wishing you good luck in your flat hunting! :)<br /><br />Mariette Frisby.Mariette Frisbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-17434425190416312522012-09-02T23:13:47.761+02:002012-09-02T23:13:47.761+02:00Hello Lorna,
It it not about being fare, it'...Hello Lorna, <br /><br />It it not about being fare, it's about their traditions or egyptian law. You were lucky your bawab didn't tell anyone about your night-job.<br /><br />It happened the same to me when I was living for 2 years in Dokki area in Giza. When my landlord found out that after my family left to Spain, I had a friend of my father coming to chek me every day entering into my home, he thought he was my boyfriend, then one day that I was away from the flat for 5 hours, he broke into the flat and saw i was a dancer, so he packet all my things including touching with his hands my most private underwear, and left them down on the street, changing the keys of the flat. He kept the deposit of the flat plus the last month that I paid him in advance, so the excuse it wasn't that I didn't paid him, the excuse was that he thought I was a bad woman.<br /><br />I am sorry to say this, but this in Egypt seems to be normal when they see you have a man coming into your flat and specially if you publicly tell people you are a bellydancer.<br /><br />This it's why when I rent a flat for my students, I tell them that the rule number 1 it's DO NOT ALLOW ANY MEN TO ENTER THE FLAT, unless you live in Zamalek or in Al Rehab, there sould not be any problem about this matter.<br /><br />If you need to rehearse with folkloric male dancers, then hire the studio in downtown at Emad el Dine. It's not expensive, it's save and they do not think bad of dancers.<br /><br />Lots of luck!!!<br />Amora ShamsAmora Shamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12381078462804963307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-58724662365802098902012-09-02T23:13:10.138+02:002012-09-02T23:13:10.138+02:00Hello Lorna,
It it not about being fare, it'...Hello Lorna, <br /><br />It it not about being fare, it's about their traditions or egyptian law. You were lucky your bawab didn't tell anyone about your night-job.<br /><br />It happened the same to me when I was living for 2 years in Dokki area in Giza. When my landlord found out that after my family left to Spain, I had a friend of my father coming to chek me every day entering into my home, he thought he was my boyfriend, then one day that I was away from the flat for 5 hours, he broke into the flat and saw i was a dancer, so he packet all my things including touching with his hands my most private underwear, and left them down on the street, changing the keys of the flat. He kept the deposit of the flat plus the last month that I paid him in advance, so the excuse it wasn't that I didn't paid him, the excuse was that he thought I was a bad woman.<br /><br />I am sorry to say this, but this in Egypt seems to be normal when they see you have a man coming into your flat and specially if you publicly tell people you are a bellydancer.<br /><br />This it's why when I rent a flat for my students, I tell them that the rule number 1 it's DO NOT ALLOW ANY MEN TO ENTER THE FLAT, unless you live in Zamalek or in Al Rehab, there sould not be any problem about this matter.<br /><br />If you need to rehearse with folkloric male dancers, then hire the studio in downtown at Emad el Dine. It's not expensive, it's save and they do not think bad of dancers.<br /><br />Lots of luck!!!<br />Amora ShamsAmora Shamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12381078462804963307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-42523567855853517972012-09-02T11:54:18.131+02:002012-09-02T11:54:18.131+02:00As usual Lorna, this is an amazing account of anot...As usual Lorna, this is an amazing account of another extraordinary adventurous life. It links so well to the blog about other people's downsides of Egyptian/Cairo culture. <br /><br />As usual, I look forward to your book that you must write if and when you ever stop the adventuring.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16221163650737844506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-50755557277406157602012-08-31T01:26:54.299+02:002012-08-31T01:26:54.299+02:00Im very sorry for your dilema Lorna. For someone s...Im very sorry for your dilema Lorna. For someone so talented and welcoming to be treated so badly is hard to believe. I was at your workshop when you came to Dublin and enjoyed the interest you took in teaching this beautiful art to us. I hope you get another home you will love very soon and Im confident you will. God Bless.Rosesartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-79081480531984324342012-08-30T12:50:06.655+02:002012-08-30T12:50:06.655+02:00I'm so sorry, just want send you a very big hu...I'm so sorry, just want send you a very big hug, all my love from here...................is terrible, but maybe this change in your live gives you something good..........soon i hope.I agree, it's no Fair......my best wishes for you.<br />mosoatmarilunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-38846035932105814982012-08-29T22:38:54.738+02:002012-08-29T22:38:54.738+02:00I'm so sorry about this news, Lorna...I wish y...I'm so sorry about this news, Lorna...I wish you luck and strength, and above all, keep dancing!Laurinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05471069898583208699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-73038666783783596882012-08-29T22:33:21.262+02:002012-08-29T22:33:21.262+02:00so sorry to hear this. I hope you draw strength on...so sorry to hear this. I hope you draw strength on how inspirational you dancing is to everyone who knows the true nature of bellydancing.Umahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06628641384161266866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-52439122477487693772012-08-29T20:26:18.163+02:002012-08-29T20:26:18.163+02:00Lorna, I was very upset to hear about this and the...Lorna, I was very upset to hear about this and then to read all the details of the story. I have seen you dance on the boats and have been reading your blog over the years to get the scoop on dance in Egypt. Sorry that I never made it over there to your flat to hang out with you during my times in Cairo. It wasn't fair to treat you that way. And I wonder if your bowab could have found you a more congenial landlady as he probably does know everything going on in the street. Remember, lots of us are rooting for you. Now take the time to recuperate and regroup . . . something better awaits, insha'allah.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10851648039768776994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-41925863278559738462012-08-29T19:01:18.288+02:002012-08-29T19:01:18.288+02:00Oh, Lorna, I'm so terribly sorry ... I had so ...Oh, Lorna, I'm so terribly sorry ... I had so many good hours with you in that flat! I remember eating ice cream on your porch and craning my neck to see the pyramid. I just want you to know that you always have my love and, more importantly, my respect as an outstanding artist and ambassador, not only for dancing but for Egypt! My old flat in Garden City may be coming up available ... let me know if you want me to connect you with the man living there now (he's moving out soon!).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07305594559414732984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-74308999892578062062012-08-29T17:07:06.488+02:002012-08-29T17:07:06.488+02:00so glad you posted about this; must've been qu...so glad you posted about this; must've been quite a shock after 6 years. hope you stay safe while in Egypt -Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424516979705714346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-48153735452167293162012-08-29T16:36:08.720+02:002012-08-29T16:36:08.720+02:00So very sorry Lorna that this has happened to you....So very sorry Lorna that this has happened to you.<br />I've seen you perform on the Nile boats and know just how "non-sleazy" your dancing is.<br />One of the charms of Egypt was it's lovely relaxed and fun-loving character but sadly since I first came here in 1983 I have watched it gradually change.<br />I have seen lovely, cheerful girls and women become dour and unsmiling when they were pressured to wear the hijab and the attitude that goes with it.<br />As the number of "beards"and niqabat increases, the light hearted aspect of the country is vanishing to be replaced by religious dogma which has little to do with actual belief, though there is much hypocrisy and double standards behind the front.<br />The only way we cope with living here now (I'm a Brit and my hubby is Egyptian) is to live in our own little bubble in a resort in Ain Sokhna.<br /><br />I do hope that you can continue to dance here and you won't be forced to go back to the UK as one of the exponents of a beautiful art form which is due to become extinct.<br /><br />All very best wishes and good luck<br /><br />JudyJudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-91121279242372751032012-08-29T15:50:15.066+02:002012-08-29T15:50:15.066+02:00I wish the best for you. To find a new niche, a n...I wish the best for you. To find a new niche, a new happy place, a new dance haven. :-)imposterpocketshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00159365786396362680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31844753.post-50864354783032080702012-08-29T15:40:20.242+02:002012-08-29T15:40:20.242+02:00I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope you find som...I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope you find somewhere even nicer, and the landlady's new tenant turns out to be so awful that all her other tenants leave.Ailiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06379397271500758804noreply@blogger.com